Comments on: The Second Amendment http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/ My world, my way Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:47:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: REB http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-961 REB Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:11:30 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-961 Look up the word genocide and see what happens when a citizenry is unarmed. Look up the word genocide and see what happens when a citizenry is unarmed.

]]> By: Uncle Lar http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-225 Uncle Lar Mon, 21 May 2007 20:14:46 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-225 Marcus, congratulations you've fallen square into the deception the anti gun crowd intended. The 1994 assault weapon ban had nothing to do with automatic weapons (ie machine guns). Those have been under Federal control since 1934. The 1994 AWB regulated a shopping list of firearms just because they looked "scary" and had features like flash hiders or bayonet lugs. It also limited new magazine production to 10 round capacities, which immediately doubled the worth of pre ban high capacity magazines. In any case, it has never been about hunting, worthy though that might be some places. It's about protecting yourself and your family from both criminals and from excesses by your own government. Please consider for a moment this thought, do you really want to live in a place where the only ones armed are the cops, military, and anyone willing to break the law? Marcus, congratulations you’ve fallen square into the deception the anti gun crowd intended. The 1994 assault weapon ban had nothing to do with automatic weapons (ie machine guns). Those have been under Federal control since 1934. The 1994 AWB regulated a shopping list of firearms just because they looked “scary” and had features like flash hiders or bayonet lugs. It also limited new magazine production to 10 round capacities, which immediately doubled the worth of pre ban high capacity magazines.
In any case, it has never been about hunting, worthy though that might be some places. It’s about protecting yourself and your family from both criminals and from excesses by your own government.
Please consider for a moment this thought, do you really want to live in a place where the only ones armed are the cops, military, and anyone willing to break the law?

]]> By: scorpy01 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-206 scorpy01 Wed, 09 May 2007 21:14:30 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-206 Not upset at all. And I don't mind a "foreigner" commenting. Three of my grandparents were foreigners when they came here. One grandfather came here to escape the Communist takeover of Croatia. He relished the freedom this country granted him. And that includes <i>your</i> freedom to speak your mind here at my blog. :) Not upset at all. And I don’t mind a “foreigner” commenting. Three of my grandparents were foreigners when they came here. One grandfather came here to escape the Communist takeover of Croatia. He relished the freedom this country granted him. And that includes your freedom to speak your mind here at my blog. :)

]]> By: scorpy01 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-205 scorpy01 Wed, 09 May 2007 21:11:23 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-205 I know about the incidents you mention. Of course, you must not forget that the terrorists of 9/11 used simple box cutters to carry out their evil plot. Nor should we overlook the American terrorists who exacted their revengen in Okalahoma City. Not a single gun was used. The point is, eliminating guns will not eliminate mass murder. To think it will is to have a false sense of security. That is ultimately even more dangerous because then we are no longer cautious. I suppose it's a good thing that your home country has laws that suit you. My country's laws - or perhaps I should say "rights" - suit me and that's why I'm determined to retain those rights. The point of our right to bear arms is not to appease the rest of the world. The point is to keep control of the government in the hands of the people. You may doubt that we, the people, still have control; you may question whether affordable weapons in the face of tanks and bombs will do any good. I'll take my chances with our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I know about the incidents you mention. Of course, you must not forget that the terrorists of 9/11 used simple box cutters to carry out their evil plot. Nor should we overlook the American terrorists who exacted their revengen in Okalahoma City. Not a single gun was used.

The point is, eliminating guns will not eliminate mass murder. To think it will is to have a false sense of security. That is ultimately even more dangerous because then we are no longer cautious.

I suppose it’s a good thing that your home country has laws that suit you. My country’s laws – or perhaps I should say “rights” – suit me and that’s why I’m determined to retain those rights.

The point of our right to bear arms is not to appease the rest of the world. The point is to keep control of the government in the hands of the people. You may doubt that we, the people, still have control; you may question whether affordable weapons in the face of tanks and bombs will do any good. I’ll take my chances with our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

]]> By: study tips http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-204 study tips Wed, 09 May 2007 20:47:41 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-204 Wasn't trying to upset anyone earlier... I suppose as a foreigner I shouldn't really comment on US domestic policy!! Wasn’t trying to upset anyone earlier… I suppose as a foreigner I shouldn’t really comment on US domestic policy!!

]]> By: study tips http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-203 study tips Wed, 09 May 2007 15:23:25 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-203 I think its strange that you believe you cannot have a successful democracy without the general population being armed to the teeth. There are plenty of other countries, where, the people do not live in tyranny, despite the population being unarmed. If the government were to turn on its own people, do you really think your small arms would protect you from tanks and planes? In the UK it was once possible to own military assault rifles (under very strict control), until someone (who passed all the checks) went on the rampage and killed 12 people with an AK47. Such weapons were banned. A few years later, a man (who also passed all the stringent checks) went into a primary school and killed 12 children with semi automatic pistols. After this, all hand guns were banned. There were complaints that the olympic shooting team would have to train in France etc..... A couple of years after that, another man went into a school with a machete, he badly injured a couple of pupils and a teacher who bravely fought the man. Though scarred for life, the teacher survived and got on with their life. In any society a small minority will be mentally ill / evil. They will try and kill people, how many people they kill is determined only by how well armed they are. What is the point in having all these weapons to protect yourself against an elected government that excerpts control through economics rather than military force, when, as a consequence, you cannot protect your children from heavily armed madmen. The rest of the world look at the gun gun culture in the US and think its utter madness. I think its strange that you believe you cannot have a successful democracy without the general population being armed to the teeth.

There are plenty of other countries, where, the people do not live in tyranny, despite the population being unarmed.

If the government were to turn on its own people, do you really think your small arms would protect you from tanks and planes?

In the UK it was once possible to own military assault rifles (under very strict control), until someone (who passed all the checks) went on the rampage and killed 12 people with an AK47. Such weapons were banned.

A few years later, a man (who also passed all the stringent checks) went into a primary school and killed 12 children with semi automatic pistols. After this, all hand guns were banned. There were complaints that the olympic shooting team would have to train in France etc…..

A couple of years after that, another man went into a school with a machete, he badly injured a couple of pupils and a teacher who bravely fought the man. Though scarred for life, the teacher survived and got on with their life.

In any society a small minority will be mentally ill / evil. They will try and kill people, how many people they kill is determined only by how well armed they are.

What is the point in having all these weapons to protect yourself against an elected government that excerpts control through economics rather than military force, when, as a consequence, you cannot protect your children from heavily armed madmen.

The rest of the world look at the gun gun culture in the US and think its utter madness.

]]> By: scorpy01 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-199 scorpy01 Sat, 05 May 2007 17:21:10 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-199 But Marcus, it isn't about hunting. It's about protecting ourselves from our own government. I'm against the ban on assault weapons. During the ban, criminals still had them and always will. But Marcus, it isn’t about hunting. It’s about protecting ourselves from our own government. I’m against the ban on assault weapons. During the ban, criminals still had them and always will.

]]> By: scorpy01 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-198 scorpy01 Sat, 05 May 2007 17:18:47 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-198 And you're my very favorite tree hugger! ;) And you’re my very favorite tree hugger! ;)

]]> By: marcus http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-197 marcus Fri, 04 May 2007 03:08:50 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-197 shhh...don't tell anyone but I am a pro gun control liberal. I don't think guns should be outlawed but I do believe that the president and congress were wrong when they allowed the ban on assault weapons to expire. Who needs fully automatic weapons anyway? You can't hunt with them. shhh…don’t tell anyone but I am a pro gun control liberal. I don’t think guns should be outlawed but I do believe that the president and congress were wrong when they allowed the ban on assault weapons to expire. Who needs fully automatic weapons anyway? You can’t hunt with them.

]]> By: Lisa http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Lisa Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:32:47 +0000 http://www.marisashreve.com/2007/04/22/the-second-amendment/#comment-195 You have definitely opened this treehugger's eyes, Mari!! You have definitely opened this treehugger’s eyes, Mari!!

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